MDF v SMA

I’ve always, secretly, wanted to be something of an agony uncle. My utter lack of sympathy and compassion, added to my sometimes sick sense of humour, have, however, blocked my path into that area of journalism. But I do get occasional emails, Facebook messages, and Twits (twitters, tweets, twats? take your pick…) from concerned people worried about an upcoming visit to the big bad taco that is Mexico DF. Here’s the latest, republished with permission of course…

Your advice, please.


I am a  male, who is living in San Miguel de Allende, with his male partner. It’s been about 2 1/2 years. Of course it’s lovely, but it seems mostly populated by old (bitter) Gringos, who argue mostly about where they can get the cheapest services, or who’s going to the Walmart in Queretaro, or how dangerous is it really, to drive down from Texas this month.

Anyway, I find myself less and less happy here, and though I have found work (not legally), I see that most of the general unhappiness here comes from Old people Who Are Not Working Anymore. There is nothing to do for them but take a morning walk, and hit the bottle in the afternoon, and angry-blog in the evenings. I too am beginning to angry-blog back, which is a bad sign. Mostly they are concerned with their real-estate values, and they haVE ‘head-in-the-sand attitudes about what a mess Mexico is becoming, in terms of personal safety (as they drive their shiny new cars and wear their expensive clothes). I figure if crime-reform ever happens, it”ll start in Mexico City.

I have been in DF once, and found it to be exciting, and a great place. I am warned by everyone not to even think of moving there (crime, crime, crime)… by those same persons who deny the rising crime here in San Miguel and neighboring Celaya (now there’s a town for ya!) I’ll be visiting again within the month.Do most of your friends work, or at least occupy themselves? Is there a retirement community in Mexico City, and will they stay away from me? And.. is it at all possible to live in a place that is somewhat safe, like Roma, without paying huge rents? Rent is cheap here in SMA, but that’s because there is nothing to do. I suppose we could swing $8,000 pesos per month, maybe more. I expect to get robbed or pickpocketed now and then. So, ironically, while we think the country is imploding, we think it best to go the very center; also it seems like more fun.

Is the Gringo-Expat population as asshole-laden there in DF, as it is here? Is San Miguel really the joke that most tourist guidebooks claim it is? I have yet to meet a person from DF who isn’t loving it,…but here, I am warned that I will be killed, and also I won’t be able to breathe, so I should stay away from it.

I Just wondered if you have enthusiastically suggested to others that they should live in Mexico City, or if you refrain from suggesting this… My idea to write came to mind lately when I realized that everyone where I am living has no real job, so there is that ‘nothingness’ which comes with having no purpose. I have work, and should be working right now. (But materials are hard to come by, here) All the materials I need are in downtown Mexico City.

As I said, I was in Mexico City once, last year, and all the fear vanished. But it’s been creeping back.
I blame the media, and gossip. I don’t know. Sorry for rambling.

Tell me your thoughts on San Miguel de Allende- if you have a moment.
I’d appreciate anything, especially along the lines of ‘Get the hell out of there!”

One you your readers,

Obviously, the first thing to note is that….I have a reader! Woohoo! I knew he existed somewhere! :) I’m probably about to lose any other San Miguel Allende readers though. Such is life. There is so much I could write about his, and other peoples questions about living or visiting Mexico City. I could write a book on it, I’m sure. Maybe I will one day. In fact if anyone out there is thinking of writing a book titled The A to Z of Living in The Big Taco, forget about it. I’ve already got it planned…

I must confess I’ve never been to San Miguel Allende. I’ve read about it, and read blogs by some of it’s English speaking residents. Some make for a little good light entertainment. Most, though, are as dreary and dull as I imagine living in the town to be. But it’s a matter of perspective. I’m a city person. Always have been, and always will be I suspect. I do prefer to be in a busy and slightly anonymous place. That’s just me.

The Rough Guide sums up SMA with this line about the community of the town … fleshed out with less ambitious retirees from the US and by flocks of students drawn to the town’s several language and arts schools. Like such a community anywhere, it’s inward-looking, often pretentious and gossip-ridden…..which is pretty much how I’d always imagined it to be. Not my scene.

So what is life like living in Mexico City? Do the fumes choke you to a near state of catatonic delirium? The air quality situation has actually improved a lot in recent years. I think the altitude is more likely to have an effect on someone, and even then only briefly, in a minor way. Will you be robbed, gunned down, beheaded or kidnapped? Well, there’s no point me saying it doesn’t happen. And to be honest there’s an awful lot of people here with stories that’d scare the pants off most people! But I have noticed that most of these stories come from a few years ago and are getting older by the day.

Living in the central parts of the city, most people are going to find that crime is not something that worries them an awful lot. I know of far more of us gringo types who haven’t been robbed than those who have. It pays to be wise in any big city and this one is no exception. But the safe areas are expanding all the time, as areas are regenerated and the policing generally improves. Calle Regina, just a few blocks away from the Zocalo is a great example. A couple of years ago, that was a good place to go if you fancied being robbed. These days, having been repaved, repainted and re-energized, it’s a lively street full of restaurants, bars and people having a good time.

Rent it has to be said is probably a little pricier that other parts of the country, but 8,000 pesos a month is going to get a pretty fine looking apartment in the city. You could get a half decent one bed place for considerably less. And it has to be said that most things actually cost less in DF. Water is subsidized for one. I think electricity and gas are too, but I could be wrong on that one.  Transport is so cheap it’s almost free! Just 3 pesos for a ride on the metro….sell the car! Even better, buy a mountain bike and get some exercise while you get about.

As for the expat community here. I know of one or two retirees, but mostly you’ll find a younger crowd, into the arts and culture, hosting regular parties of all sorts and generally intent of enjoying what Mexico City has to offer. It has to be said I’m one of the least sociable people who are part of that ‘community’, not least because I live a little deeper in the south of the city. But still, I’ve never come across someone I really disliked. Gossip doesn’t travel so far here…people don’t have the time.

I love living in Mexico City. Crime, pollution and the other terrible aspects that are so frequently reported (misreported) don’t bother me. The lack of water does, though that’s easily solved by an incoming resident who seeks out an apartment with a tinaco! The traffic is heavy too , but the more central you live, the less of a problem that is. And they don’t outweight the good things. The life, the museums, the history, the people, the food, the way the city keeps evolving on an almost daily basis. There’s always somewhere to go, something to do, some new people to meet.

Do I recommend Mexico City as a place to live? You bet. Providing you like big city life, then you’ll soon feel at home and wonder why you ever stayed away. San Miguel Allende? Get the hell out of there!  The last word on this I’ll leave to another person who wrote a similarly worried letter a couple of weeks ago. She wrote back after her visit….

Thank you so much for responding to my message.  You were absolutely right. I am completely in love with Mexico City! It’s a gorgeous city with so much to offer. I went absolutely crazy with the picture opportunities.  Thanks again for the tips, but mostly for fighting against our bad image, showing us how beautiful Mexico is and just for caring for it.Saludos!

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35 comments

  1. I can heartily second Gary’s comments. Though I haven’t lived there, I spend about three weeks a year there over the course of the average year. My BF is Mexican, and we hang out with his friends when I’m there. We go to bars, clubs, restaurants, and lots of other things There’s tons to do, and I’ve never felt threatened.

    As for crime, sure there’s street crime. But I think it’d be a cold day in hell when things got as out of hand with regard to narco-battles as it has in some of the northern states.

    I vote for a move from SMA to DF.

    Saludos,

    Kim G
    Boston, MA
    Where we increasingly think of making the move ourselves.

  2. Agony uncle? Thirty years in the newspaper business, and I still had to Google it. More commonly agony aunt, I see. This has to be a relatively recent term.

    San Miguel is gossipy? That´s a good one. This whole freaking country is gossipy. Mexicans are gossipy out the kazoo. So, that´s not really something you can hold against SMA.

    San Miguel is what it is. It´s unique in Mexico, a place apart. Great place for shopping and good restaurants, considering its relatively small size. Mexico Lite, it´s called, with reason. If you don´t want to mess with learning Spanish, or develop any feel for other cultures, head to SMA. My wife and I like to visit SMA now and then. Wouldn´t much want to live there myself. For most Gringos, especially us old coots, however, I think it´s the best place to head, especially at first, working yourself into Mexico little by little. Stay there if you wish. No problem. It´s a very attractive place.

    My wife and I own an apartment in Mexico City and head there now and then. Good place to visit. Great restaurants and shopping. San Miguel on a monster scale, but nobody much talks to you in English, which is okay by me.

    I wouldn´t live in Mexico City full-time for all the proverbial tea in Japan. Why? Two reasons: The traffic, which makes going from Point A to Point B a colossal pain in the butt most of the time. The second reason is what you inhale. I´ve never noticed it being particularly unpleasant. Was worse 25 years ago, I recall. But it is positively one polluted city, and I don´t think anyone who cares about their health would live there voluntarily. Basically, I think anyone who lives there if there are other options available is nuts.

    Regarding the guy who wrote the initial question to you, tell him to get the devil out of the country since he´s breaking the law working here.

    1. Don Felipe, I am shocked! Thirty years in the trade, and you’ve never crossed paths with an agony uncle or aunt? Aunt is the more common term, yes. The term has been around since my early schooldays at the very least, probably a little longer. So we’re talking several decades. More a Brit term though, I guess.

      I dare say SMA has its charms. Like I said, I’ve never actually been there. I’ve been through small towns full of expats before though, and they really aren’t my cup of tea. I could understand someone feeling a little frustrated! Different strokes for different folks and all that. I’m sure you know that SMA draws its fair share of negative comment, from an awful lot of people, for a whole variety of reasons.

      As for the traffic of DF….what are you doing driving in it, you crazy chap you! There’s a perfectly good metro system that’ll get you most places, for next to nothing.

      As for the air quality – no good lecturing a chap like me who’s had a 20 a day habit for cracking on a quarter of a century. My lungs are past caring about a few extra fumes. At least the cars are running on unleaded these days. But then you did specify ‘anyone who cares about their health’. It’s not that I don’t, but there is always manaña.

      I have options. One day I’m going to take one of them. But till then I’m going to have fun being nuts in a nuts city!

      PS. I edited the guys email – I got the distinct impression that his job is more of a hobby that keeps him occupied and happens to earn a few bucks, rather than a full on illegal immigrant.

      1. Voto Loco below feels my pain.

        The metro? It´s like pushing into a sardine can most hours of the day. Same with peseros. Another option is taxi where you can cringe and pray as the lunatic behind the wheel roars wildly this way and that. I think taxis, the only public transportation option in which you don´t have somebody´s elbow in your face, is the most dangerous of all, and priciest.

        However, I do take taxis, peseros and the metro. Don´t like any of them. Usually drive, and driving in Mexico City ain´t no fun at all.

        So, live there? No way, José. I probably spend about two months a year in Mexico City, and the shine has definitely come off due to my two key issues: Transport and Health.

        Regarding your disregard for your health: You have, mi amiguito, the mindset of youth on this issue. You are invulnerable. And immortal.

        And I would bet agony aunt is more a British term.

      2. PS: But being a victim of crime? Nah. And when my wife and I first got the DF apartment, I was concerned about being hassled by the police. I look Gringo as all get out. However, nothing along that line has happen. Those issues are overblown.

      3. We have different experiences on the metro Don Felipe. I guess it does depend when and on what lines you travel on. I use the metro extensively and have a seat 90% of the time. That I usually board at Taxqueña, a terminal station, does help. I also use taxis often, hailed from the street. Sometimes I find myself with a lunatic, but you do at least often get to your destination quicker!

        As for the last point – I am getting older, and noticing it. A couple of years ago I climbed a wall which took me five minutes and left me scratched and bruised. I did look back at the wall, and reflect that a decade earlier I might have vaulted it….

        I run half marathons and climb mountains in my fight against the natural process of age!

    2. I would prefer not to be labeled as “working illegally.”

      If I made, say, a solar-powered messenger bag, to charge your laptop or your phone, or light up
      at night for bicycle-visibility, and I did this myself, the stitching and leather, and solar cells (from eBay),
      and I sold one, every… 2 or 3 weeks, am I really “working illegally”? Really?

      I have a documentable bank income,
      from the States. I can pay the rent and buy what I need to live here.

      If I sell something I made, that’s beer money.

      Is every artist at the weekend art fairs
      an illegal person? If they are, please tell me.

      Here, where I am presently, no documentation is needed to sell your wares at the occasional weekend market. I’ve only done one, actually two. The first one I sold nothing. The second–
      I ordered breakfast, lunch, and drinks all day. I made enough to pay my tab. Success.

      So, let’s clear up the “i’m working illegally” stuff.. They would have had me out of here 2 years ago,
      if that were the case. In this town, it is ‘illegal’ even to volunteer for an organization without
      work permits. People do it still, but there is a crackdown. Actually working without papers,
      and being paid is rather risky here. I wouldn’t even try.

      Just to be clear.

      (one thing: whenever I heard an American back home say that a Mexican should ‘get out of the US’… well, I thought that was a pretty rotten thing to say, generally)

      1. To be fair to Don Felipe, as I had edited your email, he could only read what is posted above. I would have come to the same conclusion as him – that you are working illegally. Maybe with a less harsh suggestion on how to remedy the situation though!

  3. The thing i hate the most about this city is the traffic. With all the construction going on, plus peceros stopping in the middle of the street and the not so uncommon rioters, moving in this city is becoming impossible.

    I spend about 3-4 hours a day inside my car… even though my daily commute is only about 20 km.

    1. Another crazy car driver! Metro, metro, metro! I use my transport time to read, listen to podcasts, dream up future blog posts and watch the wonderful world that is the Mexico City metro system, a city in itself.

  4. I’ve never been to San Miguel, but I have to wonder: is it possible to find grown up sized clothes there?

    1. If you are a 6’3″ chap, you’ll struggle to find grown up clothes anywhere. Plaid school uniforms wouldn’t look hot on me. I might get myself arrested though….

      1. At 6’4″ the only options I’ve found are a limited selection at some Liverpools (Del Valle, cnr of Insurgentes and Felix Cuevas: yes; Centro: no) with decent stuff in adult sizes; a limited selection at Suburbia, but even with my bad dress sense, it’s nothing worth wearing (worse than the regular Suburbia selection, which didn’t look too bad to me, just undersized); and one place on Eje Central, a few blocks south of Juárez/Madero, with a limited and expensive selection of mostly formal clothing.

        As for shoes that I could have worn when I was eleven, I gave up looking for them years ago.

      2. I finally found footwear for my canoe sized feet in a Liverpool about 18 months ago. And I had a choice of about half a dozen pairs of trainers. But otherwise, the city’s Zapaterias are a wash out for me.

  5. I’m doing the exact opposite of what Felipe Zapata suggests. I’m a Mexican graduating from an Ivy League institution, who could remain and work legally in the US without much hassle… yet I am returning to Mexico City because I found a job that I like, and which might allow me to work on improving my city and my country…

    I am slightly skeptical of the whole pollution issue. I was in Santiago de Chile last week, pollution is as bad there or even worse. Tokyo is about the same too. Beijing has much worse pollution than Mexico City. Yet in the minds of many foreigners, Mexico City is the world’s most polluted city.
    If El DF’s pollution has such a terrible impact on health, it would decrease life expectancy. However, Capitalinos live in fact longer than anyone else in Mexico and only live 2 years less than Americans (76 years vs 78 years, weighted for males and females). The gap might be entirely attributable to worse healthcare.
    In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if life expectancy in Washington D.C. turned out to be lower than that of el DF.

    What pollution does to Capitalinos is to impair their sense of smell, or at least so they say.

    1. The positive thing about the pollution in Mexico City, is that the situation has at least improved considerably, and is continuing to improve. Although I have read gloating reports from the authorities responsible for the reduction who have been pointing out that 2010 has, so far, seen record lows. Look at the mountains, you can actually see them! This is all true, but perhaps they should have mentioned the incredible and unseasonable downpours that happened at the beginning of the year, cleaning the skies…..

      I think it’s also worth adding that different parts of the city seem to suffer….erm…differently. In the south, where I live, I find the air, most of the time, to be perfectly ok. On Weds and Fri mornings I exit Cuatro Caminos, in the north of the city, beyond the boundaries of DF and well into an industrial zone. I sometimes gag.

      1. Gary, your observation is spot on. Since the 1980’s, the city has used two tactics to reduce pollution: one, to replace old cars by new cars that pollute less (Hoy No Circula creates such incentive). Two, to drive away polluting industries.

        The problem is, many factories have simply relocated in Estado de Mexico. El DF now has mostly ‘clean’ industries (including pharmaceutical labs for example) but pollution from municipalities such as Ecatepec or Cuautitlan Izcalli tends to float south to el DF… The problem is political since el DF and Estado de Mexico are autonomous political entities with no incentive to cooperate.

        Perhaps a Greater Mexico City Authority should be created to deal with these issues that transcend outdated demarcation lines.

      2. You’re hoping for a multi party coalition across city boundaries? Mexico City needs your sort of optimism! And I mean that both sincerely and with a degree of sarcasm. I am, now and forever, optimistically pessimistic regards Mexican politics!

  6. Please Gary don’t recommend to the “provincianos” to move to the D.F. we are already full of people, I think is better scare them with histories of crime, chaos and pollution. Say to them that all the natives of Mexico City we are a bunch of crazy killer rapists, and you could have survived thanks to all your years of training in the Royal Navy.

    Anyway…if you still advising to come to “Chilangolandia”, better recommend to settle in Iztapalapa or in Tepito. :D

    I’m agree with the transportation issue; why somebody wants to drive in the D.F. its just awful.

    P.D. Gary, t’s just me or you have readers increase lately?

    1. That is a very good point! Though then we’d scare away the tourists too, and the city needs their cash! Also, although the Royal Navy was my boyhood choice, a proneness to sea sickness dictated I spent my (very) brief military career with the RAF :)

      As for visitors and any increase…I just checked the stats to have a looky see. At the end of March I will have been on WordPress for a full 12 months. I’ve had an increase of visitors on the previous month, every month, since abandoning Blogger. But it looks like March will see that trend end as my poor blog will fail to beat February’s figure. I guess that’s largely because one of my Feb posts was featured on the front page of WordPress.com and brought in an extra couple of thousand visitors.

      This post has had a few more comments than usual though, which is nice. Posting something ‘controversial’ usually has that effect! Just wait till I publish my post titled ‘Obama and Calderon in sex and drugs synagogue party shocker!’ post….

      (April 1st is just round the corner you know….)

  7. Gary,
    It’s all a matter of personal taste. I happen to like SMA and am a regular visitor,as I find the town’s size and amenities conducive to bipedal exploration. I love watching the car gather dust once I get to my residence! Personally, I have always had a preference for smaller communities, and when in major metropolitan locations (LA, SF, DEN, MIA, DAL, DET, TOR, AUS, DC, LON, AMS, et al.) I’ve been fortunate to be able to live outside of “downtown”. I now live 20 miles south of Raleigh in the midst of olde tobacco fields, yet only5 minutes from all the major big-box stores! My experiences with “inner-city” environments – was that it’s OK to work there, but I had to get out of the concrete canyons as quickly as possible after the work was done! I really dislike the crowds, congestion, and cramped space you generally find “Downtown”.
    When I was working in London, I had to live in Twickenham (just off the commons) in order to survive. Yet I have sisters in Wandsworth and Richmond who would NEVER consider leaving the CITY.. Yeah, they’ll take hols all over Europe, but have to return to Smoke to get their “city-fix”! So as I said up front, it is all a matter of personal taste – some love the glam and glitter, frenetic pace and the excitement of “big-City-Life” , while others like myself prefer the slightly more laid back, small town offerings a place like SMA has available to it’s residents. “different strokes for different folks! Nice thing about being an adult is that if you do not like where you are you can always go someplace else!
    Cheers!
    Dan in NC

    1. I wouldn’t disagree with a word you said Dan. I’ve had a couple of emails, as well as comments, and at least one of them really rather misinterpreted the post – that’s me being polite . I think they just ranted without taking time to read what I actually said, and separate it from what the email said!.

      I mentioned that it’s about perspective – as a city lad I can relate to what the email writer said. I’d find small town life a frustrating experience. Equally, I know I am not everyone, and others will find DF a stressful time. When I first came here and did a TEFL course, I was paired up with a small town Nevada girl – she couldn’t get out of here fast enough.

      I’m sure SMA would make a nice day trip for me one day – I have long meant to, but never quite got round to it. I like to get out of the smoke now and again. But long term removal, and I itch for the bustle and noise. For you, I suspect it’s the reverse.

      1. wanna trade houses for a month? No prob–

        Santo Domingo area, overlooking town,

        sr
        kw

        or,one extra room for visitor available)

        SMA

  8. My dos centavos – I have lived in San Miguel for over 4 years and do not share the view or experiences of the guy asking if he should move to DF. There is every kind of gringo here with every variety of life style and the population is in fact getting younger and younger. The cultural events are unending and I never “shop”.

    I lived in DF for over a year teaching English and lived in a working class neighborhood to the north, after Reform ends. I was there in 2002-3 and I had no idea how bad the air was until one day during Semana Santa when I was standing on a train platform in the south of the city I saw a mountain I had never seen before. And sunshine!

    I’m a native New Yorker and was perfectly comfortable in DF even though my Spanish is Neanderthal, but it is not for everyone. I love it there and visit often, but I’m also comfortable in SMA, gossip and all. So, all this by way of repeating – different strokes for different folks.

    1. It’s fair to say that whilst I put a ‘versus’ in the title of the post, the reality, as your and other comments point out, the two aren’t really comparable. My cup of tea isn’t anothers. Mind you, I let the British down here too – I hate tea.

  9. Wow. Who new? This has been the best dirt I’ve read about DF vs. SMA since I arrived here 3 years ago. I hope to move to DF in the next year. SMA is DOA. Can’t wait. Thanks for the posts. I’m more determined now then ever. DF or bust. Lust for life. SMA is full of bitter people waiting to die. Time to move on.

    1. Jeez, echoman, talk about leaping from one extreme to the other. Take a gas mask when you head to DF. And up your accident insurance, way up. Personally, I´d take a look at some of the gazillions of other locations in Mexico that are neither DF nor SMA.

      1. I do think you take the pollution to an extreme too, Señor Felipe! I know it’s bad, but one gets used to it. Kim sums it up well in the comment below.

        I am surprised that more people aren’t taken by Merida, by the way.

  10. OK, on returning, I’d agree with most of the posts about the traffic. It’s insane, especially around holidays. Mexicans are aggressive drivers, and you can’t really adapt a courteous, suburban American driving style there or you will likely be eaten alive. Want a good prep in the USA? Come to Boston and practice. I think we have the most aggressive drivers in the USA, at least of the many places I’ve visited and driven.

    But I’d also agree that taking the Metro is the way to go. At rush hour it is indeed very crowded. And there are the typical annoyances of people trying to sell things ON THE TRAINS. Particularly annoying are those who are trying to sell CDs, and walk through the trains with blaring loudspeakers in their backpacks. But it seems to be generally safe; I’ve only had one instance (out of many) where I thought some people were trying to pickpocket me. And they were sadly disappointed with what they got. (Zip, zero, nada, except for a a dirty look.)

    The metrobus is quite good, and they are extending the lines all the time. They get their own dedicated lanes, so can sail right through thick traffic. They’re also cheap, but can be quite crowded.

    Peseros can be iffy. It’s not unheard of for gunmen to hold up entire peseros in bad neighborhoods. I’ve taken plenty in and around Reforma and El Centro Historico, but think I’d pass on using them through iffier neighborhoods. F was held up in a pesero in October or November. Though no one was hurt, it was a pretty frightening experience nonetheless. We have other friends who have also been similarly held up. Sadly, little of this actually gets reported to the authorities as reporting the crime is usually a big hassle.

    But if you are not Mexican and don’t have to commute to a job, here’s how you solve the traffic issue. You live in or around Cuauhtemoc, Juarez, Roma, Condesa, or Centro Historico and don’t go far from those neighborhoods. If that’s your life, then traffic ceases to be much of an issue. But if you chose to live in Itzapalapa and work in Santa Fe, well you deserve your fate, which is to spend many hours a day in traffic.

    As for the air, sure it’s nasty from time to time, particularly in the middle of winter when there’s usually little or no rain. An MD I know in DF says that it can cause respiratory problems for sensitive people. But if you aren’t particularly sensitive, it doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem. And as Gary says, it does seem to be improving. Here is a website run by the government that shows air quality results from various monitoring stations around the city. (http://www.sma.df.gob.mx/simat2/) I’m often surprised by how good the numbers actually are. Sure I have to confess to having wondered if those numbers are entirely accurate. But when I live there, I will be better able to gauge the numbers versus how my own perception of the air is.

    So if you like big-city life and either speak a modicum of Spanish or don’t care whether you are understood or whether you can understand what’s going on around you, you probably will like DF. And if you like rural life or a US suburban kind of like, then DF is not for you.

    Saludos,

    Kim G
    Boston, MA
    Where we have city life, and a short distance away, plenty of country life too.

    1. Actually I’d think your current status (Felipe too) makes you a better judge. Live here and you get used to it. Visit frequently, and you get to snort comparable lung fulls of the DF air and non DF air.

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